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Voice Lessons – How coaches get in athletes’ heads

by drewvolpe on 3/3/22, 4:50 PM with 16 comments

  • by beder on 3/4/22, 6:48 PM

    The author mentions “The Inner Game of Tennis” as an example of how to train in images and feelings, not words, and I highly recommend it to basically anyone, not just tennis players.

    If you’re doing anything that you might hear “don’t overthink it”, then it’s for you. It was recommended to me by a friend who played competitive Foosball; I read it as an instructional about playing chess; and later, after starting to play tennis, I read it again, and I think it’s equally applicable to all of those.

  • by izzygonzalez on 3/4/22, 8:30 PM

    When I was first learning React, I spent time visualizing the coding of building-block concepts. After a few sessions, the concepts would become well-ingrained because I "simulated" the writing of the code hundreds of times in my head. It's faster than using a keyboard and physically performing the action, and I was able to do it during idle time when I was away from my computer.

    I'm now applying the same method to CS and algorithm studies.

    The speed at which I can practice iterations is the most valuable part. It also helped increase my ability to visualize things and "see" code in detail in my mind's eye. I won't lie, it is difficult at first, but I think the benefits are huge.

  • by dundercoder on 3/4/22, 6:48 PM

    This is very consistent with what I have read from sports psychologist Craig Manning[1]. So much of performance rests in the mind and of not sabotaging our performance with negative thoughts.

    [1](https://thefearlessmind.com/)

  • by dr_dshiv on 3/4/22, 10:24 PM

    Awesome article. Three things:

    1. Esther Hicks is maybe my favorite contemporary philosopher. Her words are incredible. But she operates by channeling the voice of “Abraham,” a non-physical intelligence. Whatever that means, the channeling works. What she communicates is truly awesome.

    2. Julian Jaynes — the idea that the voices in our heads were perceived as divine for ancient peoples. The voices in our head can give incredible power—or they can be our greatest barrier to success.

    3. I need to get in touch with my coach again. She is amazing and so so worth it.

  • by motohagiography on 3/4/22, 10:25 PM

    Having trained with elite athletes and coaches before, and knowing religious people, the author got some of it so right. Fear is ego and ego speaks language, so you need to find or hear a voice that separates you from the nagging, halting filter of your own ego to perform at an elite level in pretty much anything. And yet then, and the end of the article, the author judges it with some pitiful story about not getting your body back, from having "given" it in college, as though the incredible and peak human experience of performing at that level is somehow lesser - or worse, their own experience as a critic and anthropologist is somehow equal or worthy of having an opinion of what elite performance entails. The ending read as an unbearable conceit, as though criticism can digest the experience of training at that level, perhaps to seduce magazine readers of Harpers and provide some knowing comfort and justification to people who have stopped at mediocrity. Yes, I'm angry about the article, so (point author) great provocative writing, but what a disappointing analysis. I don't compete, or even place among the people who do the things I do passably as an amateur, and nobody needs my defense, but as a writer, it seemed low.

    Maybe there are elite athletes who regret their commitment, or maybe the author is really a former olympic team contender knocking the ladder away behind them, but having trained with olympians and been trained by their trainers, and being involved in mentoring and coaching relationships, the end note about "a former track star sat in my office weeping," seemed out of line. Again, superb insight into the relationship between voice and performance, and how it's closely related to spiritual experiences, but her critical lens really taints it.

  • by scott_s on 3/4/22, 11:33 PM

    Something I tell training partners when they start competing: “Competing in a sport is a skill independent of the skills of the sport itself.”

    What I mean is that through training, you learn how to do the sport. That’s table stakes. In order to compete well, you need to learn the skill of competing in that sport. That’s hard, as the practice is competition itself. And it’s a different skill set.

  • by neonate on 3/4/22, 8:35 PM

  • by yogrish on 3/5/22, 4:11 AM

    Its behind pay wall. Any other way to read this article?