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Ukraine Conflict Live Map

by journey_16162 on 2/22/22, 3:36 PM with 429 comments

  • by Scarblac on 2/22/22, 4:58 PM

    This live map started 8 years ago and has been updating all the time since, showing all daily incidents that never stopped happening. It also followed ISIS wars in Iraq and Syria and so on.

  • by chippy on 2/22/22, 5:42 PM

  • by mrenum on 2/22/22, 4:44 PM

    This makes me wounder how far we are from having real time high resolution satellite coverage of events like this. Some of the events reported in liveuamap are already based on high res sat images to identity military camps and troop movement.

  • by osynavets on 2/22/22, 7:09 PM

    Thanks everyone for support If you want somehow to support Ukraine, please join savelife.in.ua patreon, which is a volunteer rehabilitation services done for Ukrainian soldiers Again thanks everyone for everything

  • by mikecoles on 2/22/22, 4:46 PM

    Buffalo, NY, US made the map. Has anyone seen the inner workings of the site? Is it pulling keywords from feeds and then geolocating the incident?

    https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/22-february-22222buffalo-fd-wo...

  • by mdb31 on 2/22/22, 3:42 PM

    So, yes, political, but on the other hand a cool piece of tech?

    I've not seen this kind of visualization of a developing situation publicly available before, and a cursory glance shows that the data sources are at least one level beyond 'naked propaganda'...

    Bookmarked!

  • by silexia on 2/23/22, 8:31 PM

    My big picture opinion on the Ukraine Conflict: Dictators Putin and Jinping are ramping up invasions of Ukraine and Taiwan to capture new territory as free nations have done nothing to support their previous subjugation of Crimea and Hong Kong. Adolf Hitler in the 1930's used a similar strategy of gradually conquering more and more territory while free nations twiddled their thumbs. Hopefully, a leader like Winston Churchill will rise again to fight for freedom.

  • by shrubble on 2/22/22, 7:49 PM

    Does anyone know which areas of Ukraine have the large proven reserves of Lithium, the element needed for EV battery production? I know that the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts have or are near to large coal deposits.

  • by wazoox on 2/22/22, 5:54 PM

    Putin is currently playing out the same game as he did in 2008 in Georgia. Abkhazia and South Ossetia aren't formerly part of Russia; their existence merely guarantee that Georgia cannot be part of NATO. That's the plan: preventing forever Ukraine from being part of NATO. That's been the constant demand or Russia since Gorbachev, Yeltsin, etc. So the pseudo-republics of Donetsk and Luhansk will remain forever, just for this purpose.

  • by xjlin0 on 2/24/22, 2:21 PM

    It's 500 now, let's hope everything will be back to normal soon.

  • by InfiniteRand on 2/23/22, 12:05 PM

    I think in a lot of ways this is a continuation of the Poland-Russia rivalry to be the savior of the Slavs. This rivalry has been a major factor in Ukraine’s history, for instance the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth absorbed a large Western chunk of Kievian Rus during its disintegration at the same time Moscow consolidated much of the Eastern Rus principalities. It may simplistic to say this is the reason Ukraine and Belarus have separate histories but this was at least a major factor.

  • by rythmshifter03 on 2/24/22, 9:04 AM

    This has now gone offline for no apparent reason.

  • by divbzero on 2/22/22, 11:17 PM

    Would awareness and publicizing information like this discourage war? It would definitely create more public disgust but I am not sure how much that translates to pressure on political leaders.

  • by egberts1 on 2/22/22, 9:39 PM

    Every pins that I have touched on the map pops up it’s balloon that says the same thing “84 ceasefire violations, 2 servicemen killed.”

    mmmmm

  • by adultSwim on 2/23/22, 3:44 AM

    Some of the most compelling data work is coming out of US funding and interests. For instance the working relationship between Bellingcat and the Atlantic Council.

    We know in the past, the CIA has worked through traditional international and national media sources. I'm curious what they are up to in the era of data journalism.

  • by mike_k on 2/22/22, 6:34 PM

    I wonder, what is the current state of satellite technology available to military? Can they stream near real-time hi-res images that would "prove" that one side or the other is effectively responsible for a certain escalation?

    An (non-existent) international institution to analyze and take action is the other part of the puzzle.

  • by tomtomistaken on 2/22/22, 7:34 PM

    We made a map where you can add Tweets by tweeting its URL. It’s far from done and has a lot of bugs, but it’s still a nice proof of concept.

    https://decarbnow.space/

  • by igammarays on 2/22/22, 4:43 PM

    I'm in Ukraine right now, where I've been living for the past few years (Canadian Citizen born and raised in Toronto). This is completely overblown nonsense.

    This "live map" makes it seem like there is some kind of war starting. There's nothing of the sort. War started 8 years ago, and this move by Putin last night actually ENDS the war decisively.

    The rebel-held regions which were backed by Russia have been in constant conflict for 8 years. There's nothing new here on this map. Putin's decision yesterday to make it officially Russian-protected instead of shadow-backed actually de-escalates tensions and finally ends the 8-year long conflict. Now that Donetsk and Luhansk are officially Russian-backed, the Ukrainian army will no longer attempt to keep recapturing it (confirmed by President Zelensky today -- said we will not be fighting Russia head-on). Therefore no more Ukrainian body bags, which is great news, though not the ending we wanted.

  • by can16358p on 2/22/22, 5:39 PM

    I think the server is down, can't access, what did it look like when it was up?

    (Edit: okay it's definitely up. It was my extremely democratic country blocking the access. Accessed throung VPN now)

  • by dandanua on 2/22/22, 7:03 PM

    Notice dashed lines on the map. Those are boundaries of regions. Putin claimed "independence" of the whole area of 2 regions. It's MUCH larger than currently controlled red area. It's all the way up to north and also a significant area to west of the red zone.

  • by ed_balls on 2/22/22, 4:53 PM

    Hn hug of death. Does anyone have a mirror?

  • by forinti on 2/22/22, 5:39 PM

    Transnistria shouldn't be marked as it is a disputed part of Moldova, not of Ukraine.

  • by vmception on 2/22/22, 5:07 PM

    I finally read up on these regions, and know that I'm not done given that all sources are questionable and no consensus has been reached.

    But I do understand that Donetsk and Luhansk both have petitioned for more autonomy in an amended Ukranian constitution (that would give all administrative-districts more autonomy). This has failed but apparently Ukraine is in the process of becoming more decentralized with their own constitutional amendments, pursuing a concept of Federalism/Confederacy similar to Switzerland, which Donetsk and Luhansk would benefit from but that idea of satisfying those districts has long passed, now that they handle their own affairs and also receive Russian passports now.

    So because the desired constitution has failed, when that chance for diplomacy was available, and they already receive Russian passports, what exactly is the goal here?

    Are they supposed to be on the map as their own countries? Are there two new countries on the map? Is there an accession to Russia?

    I get Putin's words look more like a piecemeal approach of chopping territory back from Ukraine, until it and all former soviet states are simply Russian states. But I think most of that is just grandstanding to sound cool to his own people. I also think any opportunity of affinity towards Russia will be seized upon, especially when there is a direct border.

    I'm purposely avoiding the discrimination against Ukrainian-speaking people and actions against dissidents, given the area is reported as being lawless for some time now. And focusing on the geopolitical element.

    So with that in mind, what does recognition as independent even mean? They get Russian passports and citizenship and freedom of movement and work in Russia already. Are they simply saying that civil and criminal justice can't be appealed to either Ukraine or Russian higher courts? Going to go with the autonomous region concept until a future referendum of accession into Russia?

    I can't get an answer from my Ukrainian friends either, "its just hybrid war, American news making it bigger than it is, Biden making misinformation". I watched Putin's speech, but okay, maybe my translation was wrong, seems like denial to say Biden is just making a big deal though, but I guess I too wouldn't care about a border region full of people that aren't interested in my country's values. This last point seems to be what another comment from someone transplanted to Ukraine is saying.

  • by dainiusse on 2/22/22, 4:20 PM

    Very good map - god bless Ukraine.

  • by wrnr on 2/22/22, 5:55 PM

    I wonder what Putin will do next, he might annex Donetsk a third time.

  • by Hard_Space on 2/22/22, 4:30 PM

    A nice idea, but not crazy about the mushroom cloud icon.

  • by antocv on 2/22/22, 4:42 PM

    Does anyone remember when Gitlab forbade employees from Russia? How did that go, whats the current status now that issue?

  • by csee on 2/22/22, 5:09 PM

    Putin just recognized the full Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, 2/3 of which is currently controlled by Ukraining troops. Hard to see how this doesn't escalate into a full on war now?