by wylie39 on 2/2/22, 1:35 PM with 73 comments
by PragmaticPulp on 2/2/22, 1:50 PM
I’ve never seen this in the wild, and technically without a link I still haven’t seen it live at all. I’m wondering if the channel triggered some sort of anti-spam mechanism.
EDIT: The only source I can find is from screenshots of right-wing Twitter accounts suggesting something about YouTube censoring anti-vax protests: https://m.imgur.com/dh1kU1q Until someone can link to an actual video showing this issue, I’d approach this with an extremely high degree of skepticism.
EDIT 2: Appears to only apply to live streams from new accounts. Seems like a reasonable limitation to clamp down on the spread of copyrighted material rebroadcasting (people live streaming sports and such from throwaway accounts) and cryptocurrency scams.
by 33ultra on 2/2/22, 3:33 PM
I think the answer is still related to censorship. Streamers with lots of history also got throttled.
So, ask yourself, why would YouTube need to throttle in the first place? Who is giving all these protest-streamers their first 300 viewers, making them rise in the live-streaming rankings and exposing millions to anti-mandate protests?
I think YouTube is under attack. I think they learned from live-streams during George Floyd protests, which, incidentally, I also was exposed to, even though not caring too much about that. I think throttling is an attempt to avoid the artificial boosting of divisive and polarizing content.
I really do not want to turn this into a conspiracy theory, though Mark Zuckerberg did offer for Facebook to make some changes, with the rest blacked out under "secret weapon" technology. After experiments done on Facebook on emotional contagion, surely, they must have ways to, instead of rile up an entire populace, calm them down. We are at an age where a single out-of-context video of alleged police brutality can shut down the economy.
Edit: copyright - and ad fraud make little sense to me, since the videos could still be viewed when subscribing to the channel or logging out. If detected as fraudulent, the stream should go offline without warning.
by hnburnsy on 2/2/22, 3:50 PM
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390
>Requirements To live stream on mobile, you’ll need: At least 50 subscribers. No live streaming restrictions within the last 90 days on your channel. To verify your channel. To enable live streaming. You may need to wait 24 hours before you can start your first live stream. An Android 5.0+ device.
>Why is my mobile live stream’s audience limited? To help aspiring creators while protecting the community, we've created safeguards to limit the spread of potentially harmful content.
Will they implement the same rate limiting for apps in the Play Store or sending emails from new Gmail accounts?
New support articles coming soon...
Why is my app's audience limited? Why is sending emails from Gmail limited? Why is sharing my Google Doc limited?
by aquova on 2/2/22, 2:01 PM
Assuming it is real however, this is another baffling decision Youtube has made in recent months. I assume the thought behind this is to try maximize their walled garden in some way, but unlike other sites Youtube has such a long history of being embedded in external sites that they can't block all external access all at once. However, the main continued success of Youtube is arguably the emergence of new viral videos that boost new blood into a position of becoming a long-term profitable creator. This is being done in the name of "small creators" but it seems apparent this will have the opposite effect.
by dukeofdoom on 2/2/22, 2:55 PM
Hope Youtube doesn't become just another mouthpiece for only government approved narratives like TV.
by MomoXenosaga on 2/2/22, 2:41 PM
It is inevitable that YT is changing. Shareholders need to be payed.
by nickdothutton on 2/2/22, 2:24 PM
by RicoElectrico on 2/2/22, 2:44 PM
I have a small YT channel for local OSM chapter with 15k views & 300 subs, good to know they could fuck me over if I ever try to make a live stream that would blow up... Not that I ever had more than two dozen viewers, but social media engagement has proven to me to be very unpredictable in both upside and downside.
by monkeybutton on 2/2/22, 3:42 PM
by svnpenn on 2/2/22, 3:05 PM
> protests, since they were organized by truckers opposed to Covid vaccine mandates.
by deadalus on 2/2/22, 2:20 PM
Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii, DLive, Triller
Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube
by sylware on 2/3/22, 12:26 PM
by rjmunro on 2/7/22, 12:36 PM
by tpoacher on 2/2/22, 11:22 PM
Better yet, do so on peertube.
by margofx on 2/2/22, 2:08 PM
by webspaceadam on 2/2/22, 2:00 PM
by kumarm on 2/2/22, 2:34 PM
But the reality is this is simple and yet brilliant approach to stop misinformation and policy violators. May be even lazy approach to avoid doing the hard work. What does any policy offenders usually do? Create new accounts and post the same misinformation slightly modified.
Between Youtube and PlayStore, google has seen enough of this trends. I am surprised it even took them this long to limit virality of new accounts.
by WrtCdEvrydy on 2/2/22, 2:00 PM