by asadhaider on 11/25/21, 5:12 PM with 88 comments
by bongoman37 on 11/25/21, 5:53 PM
[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20211125154944/http://charts.dft...
by benbristow on 11/25/21, 6:54 PM
by notatoad on 11/25/21, 5:31 PM
I thought this was going to be about some sneaky exploit where they'd manage to get a gov.uk to forward links to porn or something. But no, it's really a whole subdomain just taken over by some sketchy porn site.
I'm wondering if the porn site operators even know it's happening? Seems the most likely thing is the DfT had a site at that URL, hosted on AWS. And then they shut it down without removing the DNS record and Amazon assigned that IP to somebody else.
by nneonneo on 11/25/21, 5:44 PM
I suppose there's a few possible explanations here: (1) the original site was hosted on S3, and at some point the bucket was dropped and someone else picked it up, (2) it was originally hosted on S3 and the bucket got hacked, (3) someone with access to the DNS has decided to go rogue and point it at a somewhat-legit-looking but fake domain. If there are historical DNS records floating around it might help to narrow down what happened here.
by Firefishy on 11/25/21, 8:05 PM
A scanner that would have caught the vulnerability: https://tech.ovoenergy.com/how-we-prevented-subdomain-takeov...
Or a grey hat scanner for finding sub-domains vulnerable to takeover: https://github.com/m4ll0k/takeover
by qeternity on 11/25/21, 5:36 PM
Holding up quite well despite HN frontpage. I love what a bit of caching can do.
EDIT: appears I jinxed it. I get the allure of hosting something in your home, but these days when you can get a decent VPS for $10/yr it doesn’t really make sense.
by tentacleuno on 11/25/21, 5:37 PM
> Elsewhere we have the Department for Transport careers page, which sort of does what it says. Clicking on the ‘see all vacancies’ button will redirect you to the civil service jobs site. This isn’t weird in itself, what is weird is that it uses t.co - Twitter’s redirection and domain obscuring tool to do it. Don’t ask us why, we have no idea why they would do this.
This sounds like someone inexperienced with the system is somehow managing it. How can you use a t.co link for... this? I'm surprised this edit got past anyone.
EDIT: Redacted the link just to be on the safe side. It's in the article if anyone's curious.
by necovek on 11/25/21, 6:01 PM
The CNAME of charts.dft.gov.uk.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com still works, but the reverse DNS of that IP is simply s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com: I am not sure how does one gain control of an s3-website subdomain when "abandoned" (bucket name only?), but someone did.
So the scenario someone described below is pretty likely: DoT drops it, and drops AWS use of the name, but leaves the DNS record in. I wouldn't attribute this to anyone in the DoT.
It would still require intentional action to do so, though, so I wonder if anyone has any clue how do people find out about spurious, unused S3 subdomains that still have DNS pointing at them? Scan the entire internet for domains pointing to s3-website, and check AWS API to see if it's available? Or did someone run into this by accident and decided to poke fun at it while earning some cash along the way?
by arpa on 11/25/21, 5:35 PM
by rbanffy on 11/25/21, 7:01 PM
That's not a very fair assessment. The same way as it's difficult to find British dishes better than, say, minced beef and onion pie, it's challenging to find authentically British porn that's better than this govermnent office provides its people. We should commend the Tory government for its dedication.
by belval on 11/25/21, 5:22 PM
by dddavid on 11/25/21, 7:49 PM
by iso1631 on 11/25/21, 7:13 PM
by osrec on 11/25/21, 6:28 PM
by Terry_Roll on 11/25/21, 7:57 PM
Now anyone with a rudimentary handle of the English language would probably have noticed the misspelling of carcasses on the blogpost https://designnotes.blog.gov.uk/2021/11/15/letting-users-tic... and Yorwba highlighted this on 17 November 2021 as seen in the comments. The team duly acknowledge this as seen with the updated image here https://designnotes.blog.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/53/... and the original misspelling can still be seen here https://designnotes.blog.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/53/...
Anyway, it would seem their commenting system will not allow links to be posted to them or they choose to ignore links or didn't understand the comment posted when comments like "https://www.bing.com/search?q=plural+of+carcass" come through to them which is metadata for the type of filtering being employed on their comments section.
I think its worth looking at their design principles which can be seen here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles "#1 Start with user needs Service design starts with identifying user needs. If you don’t know what the user needs are, you won’t build the right thing. Do research, analyse data, talk to users. Don’t make assumptions. Have empathy for users, and remember that what they ask for isn’t always what they need."
It would seem Grant Shapps Secretary of State for Transport is perhaps actually meeting the public's needs or maybe its what he thinks of the public. Are we solitary handy manipulators of parts of the body?
by globalise83 on 11/25/21, 6:20 PM
by mlaretallack on 11/25/21, 5:38 PM
'This site is hosted on a Raspberry Pi 4B in the author's living room (behind the couch)'
by necovek on 11/25/21, 6:05 PM
by max1cc on 11/25/21, 6:11 PM
by adav on 11/26/21, 9:12 AM
by user5994461 on 11/25/21, 10:17 PM
by globular-toast on 11/25/21, 10:05 PM
by 2-718-281-828 on 11/25/21, 6:59 PM
by aj7 on 11/25/21, 6:11 PM