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Israeli Diplomat Pressured UNC to Remove Teacher Who Criticized Israel

by anon1385 on 9/30/21, 7:45 AM with 22 comments

• by rob74 on 9/30/21, 8:46 AM

  So much for freedom of speech... it has become a knee-jerk reaction to call everyone who criticizes the current policies of the Israeli state an antisemite - as if the one had anything to do with the other. EDIT: of course, in this case the tweets sound like she's completely questioning the right to existence of the Israeli state, which is more extreme than criticizing Israel, and could also get you into trouble here in Germany.

• by kevingadd on 9/30/21, 8:39 AM

  Respect to UNC here, I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop in this article with a disclosure that she was fired, but they haven't done it (yet). I'm sure the pressure will continue to mount until they conform to the US political dogma on this one - one of the iron-clad rules in US politics, liberal or conservative, is that Israel Is Always Right because they're one of our most treasured allies (and political donors).

• by albertopv on 9/30/21, 9:20 AM

  These are things that bring hate on Israel. Freedom of speech? Democracy? Yes, but only if you say what we want.

• by theGeatZhopa on 9/30/21, 11:09 AM

  Hate is hate and should not be tolerated. My experience with that, often/most of the time, the one's who criticize others (no matter if it's a country, religion, human being, way of thinking, ... ) are not willing to take criticism of themselves at all. And that's the problem. Right now, you see it at best with the demonstrations against COVID measures. And most of the time, the ones organizing or participating in the demonstrations are far right nationals who cover their nazi-izm with the "we are a lot and we don't want". But it's a lie. It's solely a private agenda to "to catch the dumbest" and make the system break down in the hope of getting enough individuals together to form another form of state - like Hitler & NSDAP did.

  Examples: Musicians, a vegan chief, a few others, radicalized themselves up to hating EVERYTHING they relied on and used their whole life. Suddenly, the public social & health systems are bad (but they still want to use them), the government want to kill children with masks or vaccine (is it like that?), everyone's is a lier.. and so forth..

  If one look deeper in that, one will see, that actually, they are earning a lot of money, which comes from the "believers".

  Or, there was a incident last week, a 20y old boy was shot in the head as a sign of the protest against masks - just because he told the killer to wear a mask and it's mandatory in shops.

  All hate need to be punished as hard as possible. The one's hating should be rejected by the society at the highest levels. No chances should be given.

  It doesn't have to do anything with freedom of speech, when the speech is against a certain group or directed to individuals or is intended to destabilize something.

  That's why we have wars, competition among nations, Putin & Trump, Nazis and ultraright & ultraleft parties.

  The same can be applied to Israel as a country ruled by the ultraconservatives (who hate against others), to Palestine (who are not willing to arrange things and instead are openly saying, Israel must be diminished and have no right for existence), to the US and other supporters of the current politics, and Russia & Iran, Arabia, China.

  We should all rejected that and do our best to mute the hate. The ones who don't understand that, are already part of the game :)