by falnatsheh on 9/8/21, 3:07 PM
You could always tell when a company switch their priority from B2C to B2B. Notion felt different when it was first released but in the last few years new competitors were able to replicate what they've done and make it better and faster (e.g. Craft) while notion focused their energy on teams/enterprise features.
by polote on 9/8/21, 2:45 PM
I really can't understand where Notion is going. They come from b2c, made b2c free pivoted to b2b smb and started saying more and more that they are a b2b enterprise company (even though their vision is not really compatible with that). And now they buy a company which is clearly in the b2b smb/b2c space. Confused
by 88913527 on 9/8/21, 3:02 PM
Having a team in a different timezone from the main cluster of office timezones can be a win for ops-related activities, but I've found as an employee it risks work-life balance because people want real-time help (example: UTC+8 workers asking questions to UTC-8 workers). I've explored switching to a smaller company like Notion, but it seems offices everywhere is becoming the norm, so it's difficult to find roles that don't require cross-timezone collaboration.
by submeta on 9/8/21, 3:24 PM
If any Notion manager is reading this: Please stop spending endless dollars on youtube stars and affiliate marketing. Almost every Youtube star that has a channel on productivity (Thomas Frank, Ali Abdaal and a dozen others) makes paid videos about Notion. By doing that you don't get organic growth, and obviously your platform cannot handle all the new users. Whenever I try to link a page to another by hitting `@` sign, I wait literally seconds until I get recommendations. That's why I switched my writing projects to Roam and other alternatives and use Notion only for task- and project management.
by hesdeadjim on 9/8/21, 2:23 PM
I didn’t realize how much Stockholm Syndrome I had with Confluence until we switched to using Notion for our game design documents. It’s fast and responsive, which somehow in 2021 Atlassian still hasn’t figured out how to replicate with any of their products.
by sergiotapia on 9/8/21, 4:07 PM
Been using Notion for over 2 years now, and unfortunately I must say I am not going to be using them moving forward. You end up with a soup of documents each with their own structure, search is terrible, creating is easy sure - but finding the right content sucks.
I'm not sure what the solution is, but after putting Notion through its paces I know this isn't it.
by davidjgraph on 9/8/21, 2:57 PM
Seems like overkill to get the integrations into a single product.
Surely, buy 25% shares and seat on the board. Make a contract that Notion integrations are advertised first and everything else is encouraged to work with it.
That way automate still has a larger target market and provides a channel into Notion sales.
This kills automate's growth. I wonder what the price tag was.
by Existenceblinks on 9/9/21, 1:50 PM
I start to believe that all-in-one tools is eventually wrong for your work process. It's not specialized, limited, not modular, for particular workflow; you bend your whole organization's teams into it.
But too many services also introduce data integration problems (usually via APIs, 4 services may need 3 pipes). I wish there were "Managed Database Table as a Service" that provides authorization and authentication for apps/services to connect to. SaaS products connect to available db tables that user provides (assume B2B here), now business can choose a bunch of SaaS integrated together via database, get rid of all apis work.
Imagine Design tool, Issue Tracker, Git host, CMS read and write to your managed DTaaS. Painless automation extension. All teams use tools made for them specially.
by brianbreslin on 9/8/21, 2:16 PM
Makes sense strategically. I wonder if Zapier will acquire a company like Notion (maybe Coda?) and we'll start seeing bundling occur.
by fattybob on 9/9/21, 3:14 AM
I’ve happily shifted to FSNotes after tasting all flavors of alternatives- FSNotes has hit a sweet spot for me, Apple systems only maybe it’s only limit, if fully cross, I can slip back to Joplin, which is good but for some reason or other never hooked me strongly (am always looking for notational velocity replacement- thinking I’ve finally got it)
by avrionov on 9/8/21, 7:59 PM
by omarhaneef on 9/8/21, 4:11 PM
Is automate the same as IFTTT and Zapier?
There are many such firms (I think). Is there a benefit to buying a particular one?
I am sure they are hard to build, but could Notion just build one?
Any insight into why this particular company?
by z97zz on 9/8/21, 1:19 PM
Good move by notion
by arcosdev on 9/8/21, 3:13 PM
Please someone help me get Notion. It's slow, it's missing big features like offline mode and localization. What is the attraction to this app? I've tired it 3 times now and I just don't get it.
by dgudkov on 9/8/21, 5:29 PM
Any ideas about possible deal size?
by sheikheddy on 9/8/21, 5:19 PM
I have moved from Notion to Obsidian.
by ruchin_k on 9/8/21, 7:05 PM
As an Indian I'm super excited that Notion's first overseas engineering office would be located in Hyderabad, India as a consequence of this acquisition!
by junon on 9/8/21, 3:20 PM
I must have read that title five times and it wasn't until I looked at the comments that I realized it wasn't Norton (Antivirus).