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63% of European City Dwellers Want a Ban on Petrol and Diesel Cars

by reddotX on 4/13/21, 7:21 AM with 37 comments

  • by redleader55 on 4/13/21, 12:35 PM

    The title is inexact at best, intentionally misleading at worst.

    Some countries are sampled more than others: 1. UK - 2 cities 2. France - 2 cities 3. Germany - 2 cities 4. Italy - 2 cities 5. Spain - 2 cities 6. Poland - 2 cities 7. Belgium - 2 cities 8. Hungary - 1 cities

    Other European countries(either from EU, or outside) are not mentioned. EU has 27 member countries, Europe has 50 countries according to Wikipedia has 50 countries.

  • by tom_mellior on 4/13/21, 8:49 PM

    > Almost two-thirds of Europe’s city dwellers support a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars after 2030, according to a new YouGov poll.

    European city dweller here. Yes, I want these cars gone. But I don't want them replaced by electric cars. I want most of them gone, no matter what kind of propulsion they use.

  • by mytailorisrich on 4/13/21, 8:03 AM

    People who do not need cars or who have access to an alternative to ICE don't have a problem. Obviously.

    The issue is the large number of people who rely on cars for work, and especially who rely on vans for work. There must be viable alternative to ICE vehicles for these people, otherwise hitting diesel (or petrol) vehicles can have the consequences seen for instance in France with the "Yellow vests".

  • by EricE on 4/13/21, 6:09 PM

    lol as they turn off their nuclear plants and buy more natural gas from Russia.

    The freaking communists couldn't have done a better job at destroying the west than the west is willingly doing to itself.

    Our own version of The Great Event/Fermi Paradox :p

  • by EdwinLarkin on 4/13/21, 3:30 PM

    European here.

    Owning a car means freedom.Public transport is slavery. Being at the mercy of the government was highlighted during this pandemic when governments enforced rules to limit mobility.

    I'd rather sit in traffic not wearing FFP2 and be able to visit my parents in another city whenever I want than rely on ineffective and unreliable public transport.