by aleyan on 3/5/21, 6:27 PM with 69 comments
by dabernathy89 on 3/5/21, 7:27 PM
by dang on 3/5/21, 10:35 PM
Data-Transfer-Project - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23887000 - July 2020 (27 comments)
An open source platform promoting universal data portability - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17596146 - July 2018 (10 comments)
The Data Transfer Project - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17580502 - July 2018 (47 comments)
The Data Transfer Project - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17574707 - July 2018 (50 comments)
Others?
by shuntress on 3/5/21, 9:22 PM
Is it purely for data migration? ie: I am closing my facebook account and want to extract an archive copy of all my contacts, posts, uploads, etc
Is it better to function as a direct transfer? How could it possibly make sense to transfer my old hackernews comments to my new facebook account?
The more I think about it, the more I just come back to email. Not necessarily the specific implementations, just the high level design: From any domain, I should be able to send a direct message to a contact in any domain. They should be able to view any basic[0] content I post (text, images, calendar) and respond in kind with basic content regardless of the domain either of us use.
I'm not sure that fully-federated-everything is the best answer and I would expect most reasonable implementations to include "Sign in at facebook.com for the best experience" or whatever.
I can't personally imagine the ideal system yet but I assume it must be somewhere in the unmapped middle ground between Facebook/Twitter/Apple silos and thousands of impossible-to-trust sloppily-federated micro-domains hosted by random individuals.
Edit: As an aside, the issue of authentication seems critically important with no clear designs that would provide a secure and usable solution. Though, the issue of account name squatters does already exist, it is relatively manageable with so few domains and no inter-operability between domains.
[0] This concept of "basic" data seems to be more-or-less captured by the "verticals" described here https://datatransferproject.dev/documentation
by ncw96 on 3/5/21, 7:15 PM
by nabla9 on 3/5/21, 6:45 PM
by hosh on 3/6/21, 1:54 AM
I have no idea how the economics would work with this.
by kyrra on 3/5/21, 8:24 PM
Nice to see it's finally landing.
by not_knuth on 3/5/21, 8:11 PM
by feralimal on 3/6/21, 11:27 AM
* We are separated from our data. It should be ours, and we should be able to allow for corporates to access it if we choose to and we are able to understand the usage.
* The options we are given here are to be able to move our data from one corporate entity to another. Hardly the solution individual ownership of one's data and privacy.
* We are looking to government legislation to make this right for us, but governments like having access to all the data that the corporations share with them. Governments are in the business of managing populations at scale - the more information they have, the better modelling, nudging, manipulations of the population they can do. Basically corporate and governmental interests align.
* Not to forget that corporations lobby governmental entities for the legislation they want. Even if the legislation states one thing, there are ALWAYS backdoors that are understood.
I'm sorry to say that the attack on privacy is a coordinated one with governments AND corporations. If you hope that this time the government will write better legislation or that corporates will do the right thing, you are mistaken. They only care about being perceived to do the right thing - so public relations.
If you are aware of all that, and have a solution, I would be interested to hear. I think any solution would involve individuals acting very defensively about their data. Any solution that begs government or corporations for better action this time is doomed.
by efwfwef on 3/5/21, 9:20 PM
by derg on 3/5/21, 7:25 PM
by nixpulvis on 3/5/21, 11:06 PM
by layoutIfNeeded on 3/5/21, 10:09 PM
by john2010 on 3/6/21, 11:34 AM
https://datatransferproject.dev/faq
> Q: Why aren’t there more, smaller companies in the Project?
by zelon88 on 3/6/21, 12:04 AM
by futuregirlskies on 3/6/21, 12:33 AM
by marcodiego on 3/5/21, 9:26 PM
by sebastien_b on 3/5/21, 9:54 PM
by ineedasername on 3/5/21, 9:45 PM
by alexashka on 3/5/21, 7:27 PM
Well, ok then.