by mtmail on 1/9/21, 10:25 AM
by ceilingcorner on 1/9/21, 10:23 AM
The cognitive dissonance on HN at play is frankly hilarious. One minute, Apple and Google are monopolistic abusers that should be broken up. The next, we’re actively cheering on selective enforcement of deliberately vague ethical standards and laws, simply because the other team is bad.
Downvote systems make this issue nearly impossible to discuss, so I’m not even sure why I’m posting this. All I can say is: fighting polarization starts with treating people you disagree with as fellow citizens and human beings, not as Others to be removed and excommunicated.
by beefield on 1/9/21, 10:15 AM
> In order to protect user safety on Google Play, our longstanding policies require that apps displaying user-generated content have moderation policies and enforcement that removes egregious content like posts that incite violence.
Okay, I'll bite. I would be curious about the details of moderation policies of a couple of long-standing apps that display user-generated content. I mean, just to get an understanding which kind of policies are acceptable. Chrome and Firefox.
(To be clear, I am laughing at the wording. And maybe large unaccountable corporations are not the correct vehicles to come up with rules to moderate public discussion)
by Daniel_sk on 1/9/21, 10:14 AM
"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
by shimonabi on 1/9/21, 10:07 AM
Talk of violence and murder is not free speech.
I've been on these platforms before the riot and I've seen a lot of unmoderated criminal activity.
by three_seagrass on 1/9/21, 10:10 AM
Apple gave Parler a 24 hr warning to come up with a moderation plan or they're banned, but it's likely Apple is more or less showboating for their current antitrust and anticompetitive lawsuits. They will probably ban them this weekend too.
by stunt on 1/9/21, 10:54 AM
This is exactly how internet censorship started in countries like China and Iran. Nobody should have this power.
Iran used the same argument to block Telegram because a few groups were teaching people how to make coctel-molotov. But, Telegram was actively being used by peaceful protestors and other groups (real targets) as well. Blocking Telegram was condemned by the US and the EU.
by drno123 on 1/9/21, 10:46 AM
So months of violent looting from the left and nothing; one afternoon of violent looting from the right and now extreme measures are taken?!?
by throwaway4good on 1/9/21, 10:23 AM
Alt-right people. Just get a Huawei phone; their Android variation allows easy loading of apps from third party sources ...
by kolinko on 1/9/21, 10:08 AM
I hope that long term there is some sort of a government oversight that manages actions like these...
by jfoster on 1/9/21, 10:38 AM
Hang on a sec, doesn't Google Chrome display user-generated content?
by throwaway4good on 1/9/21, 10:25 AM
Alt-right people. Enough of this red pill / blue pill stuff. The relevant Matrix quote is this: What good is a phone call if you are unable to speak?
by Havoc on 1/9/21, 10:23 AM
This is just going to make them feel vindicated. Ie
>see it’s an organized campaign (conspiracy?) to suppress the truth and freedom of speech. Deep state /qanon etc
by yurielt on 1/9/21, 10:13 AM
This is just insulting I don’t like the people on Trumps side however nobody that loves software and freedom should be in favour of corporations doing this honestly how did hackernews got filled with bootlickers baffles me
by libx on 1/9/21, 10:26 AM
Nazism equals national socialism.
This dictatorship is about international socialism.
Either people awake or we get like the frog in boiling water.