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AWS: Amazon web outage breaks vacuums and doorbells

by kissiel on 11/26/20, 2:45 PM with 22 comments

  • by x86_64Ubuntu on 11/26/20, 5:41 PM

    And this is one of the reasons I'm wary of all these IoT linkings. We see it in cars, vacuum cleaners, fridges, doorbells and thermostats. Some folks see it as a way to market new items and increase functionality, I see it as a vector of malware and the opportunity to hold items hostage until a fee (subscription or update fee) is paid.
  • by kevincox on 11/26/20, 6:28 PM

    This is why I don't want IoT. Most new robot-vacuums can't even run the schedule if they are disconnected. But even if they can you sure as hell can't change it if the service goes down (or turns off).

    I want to know that sparing physical issues, the products I buy will keep working. Not because the vendor decided that it is no longer worth supporting. I purposely bought a couple-generation old vacuum for this reason.

    This outage should sever a wake up call for how useless your "smart" devices will be in a couple of years when the company decides that keeping them working is no longer worth it.

    The inability for air-gaped devices to catch malware is a nice added benefit.

  • by tyingq on 11/26/20, 4:47 PM

    Stunned that a Ring doorbell doesn't have a fallback mode that at least "Rings" the bell. I wonder if that's a deliberate design, or some oversight/side-effect that happened after V1.
  • by holstvoogd on 11/26/20, 4:56 PM

    Ah yes, the Internet of broken Things :)
  • by smsm42 on 11/27/20, 12:01 AM

    OK, I get the doorbell thing, video recording and all that. But vacuums? What on Earth could vaccum do with AWS? Calculate the summary length of your vacuuming sessions as a percentage of distance to the Moon? Have a customized ringtones (or should it be sucktones?) for the engine? Have a dance pattern so you could waltz with it if you pat $49.95? Seriously, what does a vacuum do with AWS?
  • by sigmaprimus on 11/27/20, 12:07 AM

    Yesterday it was smart their smart plugs, I had just put up my Xmas lights and decided to control them using a smart plug from an outlet in my crawlspace.

    I spent half the day crawling down there and pressing the button to connect them before finding a reddit thread showing that several other people were having same issue.

    Around midnight the plugs were back online.

  • by jannes on 11/27/20, 12:26 AM

    Ironically, some Xiaomi vacuum robots are possibly the only cloud-free vacuums, once you root them and install Valetudo:

    https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo#readme

  • by jasonv on 11/27/20, 5:59 AM

    During the outage today, my Alexa’s were streaming music. When I said, “Alexa”, they went right into reporting that there was an issue. I couldn’t even issue an “Alexa, stop”. Seemed.... dumb.
  • by koreanguy on 11/26/20, 2:49 PM

    heroku connected to amazon, it is also affected.