by jsz0 on 2/12/20, 6:28 PM
I have to admit I'm nostalgic for the straight forward nature of NS/WM and even some of the less powerful interfaces of the time. Most modern desktop environments including macOS feel like an exercise in evading landmines of unpredictable or inconsistent behavior. On macOS specifically the retrofitting of tabs into applications mostly designed to be SDI has (mixed with some legit SDI apps and full screen stuff) is a mess. Can anyone actually keep track of dozens of windows with maybe dozens more tabs open in each one? Sometimes I find a randomly find a minimized window full of stuff I haven't seen in weeks. Lost in the complexity.
by jamesfmilne on 2/12/20, 4:55 PM
If you want to run this alongside GNOME on CentOS 7, you can switch between them like so:
To enable NEXTspace:
- sudo systemctl stop display-manager
- sudo systemctl disable gdm
- sudo systemctl enable loginwindow
- sudo systemctl start display-manager
To enable GNOME:
- sudo systemctl stop display-manager
- sudo systemctl disable loginwindow
- sudo systemctl enable gdm
- sudo systemctl start display-manager
by qubex on 2/12/20, 4:45 PM
Bless his soul for making this. It really brings me back.
For me, NeXTstep is still the high water mark of GUI design and usability.
by AdmiralAsshat on 2/12/20, 3:27 PM
Clearly a hobby/passion project, so, there's no need to justify its existence, but given this point:
>I think GNUstep needs a reference implementation of a user-oriented desktop environment.
I wonder why he didn't just contribute to Étoilé, since he seems aware of it.
by fallous on 2/12/20, 5:45 PM
Definitely gives me some nostalgia for the days when I ran AfterStep for my desktop machine while at Netscape.
by mixmastamyk on 2/12/20, 5:13 PM
This is awesome and looks very nice, loved the aesthetic. Yet I hope it takes into account modern technology, e.g. either font smoothing or high resolution displays. There's no point in copying the 1990s wholesale.
by unixhero on 2/12/20, 3:57 PM
Would be great if he targeted Debian. It's after all the upstream base for millions of Linux users.
by drudru11 on 2/12/20, 6:26 PM
Wow - As I read the readme and wiki it shows what an impressive amount of effort to pull this all together. This is the closest to OpenStep I’ve ever seen an open source project achieve.
by xmonkee on 2/12/20, 4:51 PM
by xvilka on 2/12/20, 5:31 PM
by uranium235 on 2/12/20, 5:48 PM
If I didn't know any better I'd say you were trying to sell me wooden nickels. This looks exactly like Windowmaker :D I like to say that about people's next stations whenever I have the chance
by uranium235 on 2/12/20, 5:53 PM
I would really like to see a more modern version of the nextstep style In the same way I'm using fluxbox with my own style that reflects something a little more modern. Just need to figure out how to get proper alpha compositing for a few things. xcompmgr works fine with stuff like konsole for me, but the menu transparencies are not active in fluxbox. still looks very nice. You could do a lot with wmaker styling just get rid of that awful blue gradient and use some more modern fonts (I'm using nerdfonts for a lot) the ui toolkit is kinda blocky/bulky that's all changable though looks a little better on high-dpi
by simplecto on 2/12/20, 4:30 PM
The nostalgia on this is great. I really loved all the useful widgets that you could dock to the side. Mainly for me it was the modem status (way back in the day), battery, and sound controls.
by rogual on 2/12/20, 3:48 PM
Is this kind of thing open to copyright or patent suits from Apple? I always wonder, with projects like this, how you can get away with doing such a close copy of a commercial OS.
by stevekinney on 2/12/20, 4:22 PM
I'd love to see something similar for the classic (pre-Aqua/OS X) Mac OS look and feel. Does anyone know if that exists?
by rcarmo on 2/13/20, 8:22 AM
This would be amazing on a Raspberry Pi. Too bad it’s based on CentOS rather than Debian.
by machinecoffee on 2/13/20, 12:58 PM
Seems to be largely written in C and Objective C, with Gnustep providing the Foundation Kit.
Objective C I've found to be a great and productive language for writing GUI based apps, with the selector based event handling.
Nice work by the developer.
by mryingster on 2/12/20, 3:16 PM
by Artur96 on 2/12/20, 4:15 PM
Glad someone is reviving old projects that had potential
by jjuel on 2/12/20, 7:26 PM
May have to install CentOS just so I can use this. I love the look of this.
by ajphdiv on 2/12/20, 11:18 PM
Is the panel on the top left a right click menu or is that always there?
by winrid on 2/12/20, 11:15 PM
Now someone fork it and re-skin it to look like OSX.
(nice job - feeling very nostalgic)
by briandilley on 2/13/20, 2:19 AM
What about WindowMaker?