by wills_forward on 10/17/19, 10:09 PM with 113 comments
by jdoliner on 10/17/19, 10:40 PM
by Townley on 10/17/19, 11:51 PM
That said, I'm a bit surprised to see a "Rake them over the coals" attitude on HN. They leaked a DB with hashed passwords, user data, and last 4 digits of credit cards. That happens to even the most responsible websites all the time, even with seven years of best practices to build upon. I know it would have absolutely happened to the awful, framework-less PHP I was writing back in 2012.
Without letting Zappos off the hook for not taking security more seriously, it seems to me that substantial, non-ridiculous monetary punishments should be reserved for instances of deliberate recklessness, or at least clear, preventable negligence.
by thomascgalvin on 10/17/19, 10:50 PM
Of course, one could also argue that this has just created a new form of venture lawyering, with attorneys who give zero shits about their clients chasing compliance violations rather than ambulances, and businesses baking these lawsuits into their profitability calculations.
by saagarjha on 10/17/19, 10:41 PM
by CryoLogic on 10/17/19, 10:40 PM
In other words - is this an "American corporate greed" sort of tragedy, or is this standard result of such a lawsuit in all major countries?
By tragedy, I mean over 90% of the proceeds of the lawsuit going to lawyers rather than individuals affected in the data breach.
by jedberg on 10/17/19, 10:57 PM
by timavr on 10/17/19, 10:49 PM
The point of legal system should be to compensate the wronged party, not to enrich lawyers.
by m4tthumphrey on 10/17/19, 10:42 PM
by NelsonMinar on 10/17/19, 11:42 PM
by Waterluvian on 10/17/19, 10:55 PM
If you said my settlenent is $80 I'd say go for broke. Take it all the way or go home. No but the lawyer sees a perfectly cromulent payday for themselves so they'll encourage the class to accept the deal.
by hanniabu on 10/17/19, 10:54 PM
by Sephr on 10/18/19, 6:37 AM
by RcouF1uZ4gsC on 10/18/19, 5:12 AM
by nothinghere789 on 10/18/19, 5:28 PM
by 0x262d on 10/18/19, 12:31 AM
by noonespecial on 10/18/19, 12:09 AM
by mirimir on 10/18/19, 4:36 AM
I thought that fees and expenses were generally 30%-40% of settlements.
by nothinghere789 on 10/18/19, 5:27 PM
by OrgNet on 10/18/19, 12:35 AM
by bradhe on 10/17/19, 10:39 PM