by mrborgen on 4/6/19, 8:02 PM with 636 comments
What are some examples of this?
If there are examples of truly great products that eventually died, I'd like to study them more in-depth.
by gtf21 on 4/6/19, 11:07 PM
I'm not entirely sure what caused their death, but my personal view is that they tried to become too big, and I don't think the wearables market is really that valuable. They could have remained a small house which maintained a great product for a segment of the market that really appreciated it. I'm sure that's a simplistic view, and definitely ill-informed since I wasn't on the inside.
I still think they are far better than the Apple Watch or any of the Android Wear devices I've seen.
by danpalmer on 4/7/19, 7:59 AM
At work we use Slack, Email, Google Docs, etc. We’re never quite happy with how things work - what should be email vs Slack, at what point should a a Slack conversation become an email conversation to be visible to more people, when should that turn into a doc for a more formal review process, etc. We’re trialling Notion for some things and it’s good. What should be a Wiki?
Whenever we have any of these discussions, I always feel like we’re circling around what Wave once was, and potentially could have been. It wasn’t fully polished, but so many of the fundamental concepts were there. If it had stuck I think communication in companies would be much better than it is now.
by WD-42 on 4/7/19, 1:29 AM
by hn_throwaway_99 on 4/7/19, 1:11 AM
Yes, all-electric is the future, but right now being able to be on battery 95% of the time, but never having range anxiety because I can always get gas when needed, is wonderful. I can go on long trips and never worry about having to pre-plan where I will charge up. Also, I didn't have to do any special electrical work because I can get a full 40 mile charge overnight on 12 amps.
I think it's really a great car and due to the electric motor it's fun to drive for someone who doesn't generally like driving.
by arendtio on 4/6/19, 9:46 PM
Altogether not a truly great tablet, but I loved the idea of the Pixel Qi display. Normal colored LCD when being used indoors with backlight enabled. But outdoors in the bright sun, the colors faded away and it became some e-paper like reflective display. That way you could use it for watching movies in the dark and reading books on the beach ;-)
Sadly the tablet had a lot of other flaws and the colors of the LCD weren't as good as the AMOLEDs we are used to today, but every time I see one of those ebook readers with b/w display I wonder why the Pixel Qi displays didn't make it.
by jdietrich on 4/7/19, 3:21 AM
by Lowkeyloki on 4/7/19, 9:18 AM
People really hated it because (IMHO) it had a really rocky launch. Ubuntu replaced a very usable GNOME 2.x desktop with an alpha-quality replacement. And Canonical was riding high from having "won" the Linux for desktop game and was pushing their weight around, giving the impression that they were ignoring the feedback from their users.
Unity wasn't without its missteps. But it matured quite nicely and I now prefer it to other desktop paradigms. Windows especially. It feels a bit stuck, like Microsoft thinks it reached peak desktop design in 1994. ;-)
Now that Ubuntu has ditched Unity, I really don't know what I'm going to do. I've been holding on running Ubuntu 16.04, but it's getting to be a burden. I don't like GNOME 3. I'm still not sure what to do. I might give Pop!_OS a decent kicking of the tires. I know that's still GNOME 3, but their take on it is the closest I've seen it get to tolerable.
by mephitix on 4/6/19, 9:34 PM
by milkytron on 4/7/19, 4:00 AM
When I used it, I saw it as a blend between Android and iOS.
It had the beauty, polish, and responsiveness that I loved on iPhones, but had the developer options and open community that Android had. It was a great product, and it's a shame that now we really only have two choices for smartphone operating system, WebOS being neither.
by ldigas on 4/7/19, 9:00 AM
by avinium on 4/7/19, 12:10 PM
Comprehensive music catalogue, servers never went down, and UI was simplicity incarnate.
Totally illegal business model, so it's not surprising that it didn't survive.
But it was awesome while it lasted.
by tgb on 4/7/19, 10:47 AM
It completely disappeared a year or two and was replaced by a crappy news feed that is so poorly displayed you often can't even read the entire headline. Please tell me Google just his this feature and it still exists.
by k_sze on 4/7/19, 6:17 AM
by valleyjo on 4/6/19, 9:02 PM
by apexkid on 4/7/19, 6:06 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Glass
A pure ingenious effort to turn humans into cyborg by adding the 4th dimension of computing to their lives in a non intrusive and seamless way. I can never understand why google couldn't make it popular given that wearable tech like watches and fitness band is catching up so quickly.
by znpy on 4/7/19, 11:58 AM
Apparently it now has "joined" mix.com, where you can only join via Facebook, twitter or google authentication. Thanks but no thanks.
by rocky1138 on 4/6/19, 9:38 PM
by oneowl on 4/7/19, 4:25 AM
by ksaj on 4/6/19, 8:49 PM
by Deivuh on 4/7/19, 4:30 PM
I remember that when I switched to GTalk, I still kept MSN for some of my contacts that I still chatted with, but eventually those people switched too and there was nothing left in MSN for me other that contacts with long and overly decorated status messages.
The official GTalk client was simple and lightweight. But then it died and the only official client was within Gmail, which I eventually stopped using because I missed so many messages when I was “online” while it was sitting unnoticed in tab on my browser.
I know GTalk is still alive and there’s WhatsApp, Telegram and such but I guess I miss the synchronous conversations back then, when people would still say “You gonna be online tonight? Let’s talk about it there”
by HHalvi on 4/7/19, 8:41 AM
Second to that is probably the void that Sunrise, Carousel and Rdio have left out. I still haven't worthy replacements to all of them.
by wj on 4/7/19, 2:57 AM
I see Palm already mentioned. Neo Geo.
Obviously everything I have done was great--too advanced for its time to succeed.
by sdx23 on 4/7/19, 9:04 AM
by charpede on 4/7/19, 2:57 AM
by indentit on 4/7/19, 7:25 AM
by x11 on 4/6/19, 9:34 PM
by rwallace on 4/7/19, 1:02 AM
by vax on 4/6/19, 10:20 PM
by pcr910303 on 4/7/19, 12:26 PM
And there is Xanadu, the ultimate hypermedia system. It’s a pity that no one (who could fund them) really understood the concept back then and it became vaporware...
by jccalhoun on 4/7/19, 2:12 AM
by ryeon on 4/7/19, 12:01 AM
by darpa_escapee on 4/7/19, 1:56 AM
by kopos on 4/7/19, 3:42 AM
+1 XMPP - in still finding it puzzling that it's not deployed and used more often
by sfRattan on 4/7/19, 4:17 AM
The Supreme Court decision that killed the company is an excellent example of what happens when jurists don't understand technology... And don't want to, either.
by rbritton on 4/7/19, 3:38 AM
by apexkid on 4/7/19, 6:04 AM
by beefman on 4/7/19, 3:45 PM
by drfuchs on 4/7/19, 1:19 AM
by gnuarch on 4/6/19, 9:27 PM
by freehunter on 4/7/19, 12:06 AM
by Eyes on 4/6/19, 8:58 PM
It disappeared from my phone this week and I'm in shambles.
by tpaschalis on 4/7/19, 11:04 AM
by didymospl on 4/6/19, 9:29 PM
Although it didn't die yet, it certainly doesn't live up to its potential.
by quickthrower2 on 4/6/19, 8:52 PM
Microsoft's WPF
by belltaco on 4/6/19, 9:19 PM
Zune
by clydethefrog on 4/7/19, 12:34 AM
Using geographical location to find digital items way before Ingress and Pokemon Go. The design was gorgeous too.
by wslh on 4/7/19, 12:08 PM
by sien on 4/6/19, 9:20 PM
by scarejunba on 4/7/19, 9:32 AM
Rewarded early participants in music discovery. Clever mechanic.
by kabdib on 4/7/19, 5:34 PM
The hardware was too expensive and bulky, and the software tooling was never really there (I remember someone on the team comparing our dev tools with the newly released Visual Basic).
The first release of the Newton was plagued with bugs (it shipped maybe 4-6 months too early) and had a hardware issue -- noise in the digitizer -- that made its handwriting recognition system perform very badly. Early consumer experience with it wasn't great, and that painted the product with fail and derision; the Doonesbury cartoon was accurate at the time.
by orionblastar on 4/7/19, 4:30 AM
A better DOS than DOS
A better Windows than Windows
Microsoft used the OEM tax to force Windows preinstalled than OS/2. Then development dwindled and Microsoft made Visual Studio for Windows.
It is still a good OS and OSFree is trying to open source it.
by colechristensen on 4/7/19, 12:41 AM
Beautiful design, great natural light color, engineered to dissipate heat very well (and thus last a long time), they got on the cover of Wired.
However they overdid the packaging and had a hard times convincing people to buy $60 light bulbs and only sold in strange stores.
by sagebird on 4/7/19, 12:12 AM
by jinjiang on 4/7/19, 11:37 AM
by zubairq on 4/7/19, 7:10 AM
by espeed on 4/6/19, 9:49 PM
by moeffju on 4/6/19, 9:46 PM
Last.fm, well. I really miss it.
Windows Phone and especially the Metro Design (although some of it carried into Modern UI).
by scurvy on 4/7/19, 1:47 AM
by kissgyorgy on 4/7/19, 10:43 AM
by jdougan on 4/6/19, 10:40 PM
by OneWordSoln on 4/7/19, 1:30 AM
They were done in by "planned obsolescence"; I haven't watched this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh7_PA8GZU) yet but it has a good ratio.
I can't stand the light from LED or fluorescent light bulbs, and GE can pour themselves a warm bath.
by crappybird on 4/7/19, 1:59 AM
by hamandcheese on 4/6/19, 9:14 PM
by ksec on 4/7/19, 12:24 PM
So far
Google Wave, Pepple Smart Watch, XMPP, Unity, WebOS, Zune, Windows Phone.
I don't see any of these as "great" at all. And they aren't better in any sense. Google Wave might have succeeded if it was aiming at business use case, but for average consumers I doubt anyone are interested, and that is why it was shutted down.
I have yet to see a single consumer who looked at the UX of Zune, Windows Phone, Unity and thought I wish my Android / iPhone has that.
It is the same thing again and again, Engineers, or Nerds are designing what they thought was good, trying to solve problems where consumers don't have or don't care. There are many case of SaaS successes because their market are filled with the people having the same problem in business or Engineering.
by watersb on 4/7/19, 8:06 AM
by ilaksh on 4/7/19, 12:53 AM
by jacobedawson on 4/7/19, 9:40 AM
by bothra90 on 4/7/19, 4:58 AM
by revskill on 4/7/19, 10:56 AM
I must admit, Angular 1 is productive to me. But its custom directive failed so much for a composition model.
It's a pity, though.
by milkey_mouse on 4/7/19, 7:07 PM
The "Metro" design language of the Zune devices, including the HD, influenced the Windows Phone and other Microsoft products. The Zune was the first device to have the tile layout many miss from the Windows Phone.
Zune Music Pass, an all-you-can-listen monthly music subscription service à la Spotify, was way before its time. I think it was the first such offering ever.
Unfortunately its "app store" had a total of 47 apps. On the plus side, you can install every Zune app ever at once :P
It also runs IE5, I think? Maybe IE6? It barely supported CSS at all.
by mamp on 4/7/19, 3:00 AM
Path had nice UI innovations that were later merged into other platforms. I guess people prefer a bigger audience over privacy.
by noeltock on 4/7/19, 8:10 AM
by jelling on 4/6/19, 9:58 PM
by bufferoverflow on 4/6/19, 8:42 PM
Google Wave
by orionblastar on 4/7/19, 6:32 AM
The Amiga had true multitasking for a 68K Machine and even ran MS-DOS and MacOS with emulators. Problem is they could only get game makers to write software for the Amiga. The business software, video editing, etc came too late. They still make Amiga systems with PowerPC chips now.
AROS is an open source of AmigaOS 3.1: http://aros.sourceforge.net/
by ncmncm on 4/7/19, 3:34 AM
IMHO the final Apple product released before they turned intolerably smug.
by fma on 4/7/19, 12:27 PM
by wslh on 4/7/19, 2:28 PM
Groove Networks [2] a serverless team app.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FriendFeed
[2] http://www2.sys-con.com/ITSG/virtualcd/WebServices/archives/...
by pdeva1 on 4/7/19, 12:38 AM
Its ironic since with Docker + Kubernetes, folks essentially are recreating their own PAAS from scratch, but wouldn't use a prebuilt one...
by maxharris on 4/6/19, 8:09 PM
Google Inbox
SGI workstations
Sun NeWS
by ksec on 4/7/19, 12:09 PM
by mvaliente2001 on 4/7/19, 12:48 PM
by Ftuuky on 4/7/19, 12:52 AM
Tastekid
by jefftk on 4/7/19, 11:58 AM
by jwildeboer on 4/6/19, 9:38 PM
by orionblastar on 4/7/19, 6:29 AM
HaikuOS tries to open source BeOS: https://www.haiku-os.org/
by chanux on 4/7/19, 2:05 PM
When I first found it, I knew that's the photo backup I need. But when I was ready to pay for it, it was closing down. I thought it'd be a great fit at Amazon. But Alas, some great products don't succeed.
by ldigas on 4/7/19, 8:59 AM
by indentit on 4/7/19, 7:29 AM
by dgellow on 4/7/19, 12:20 PM
by MehdiHK on 4/7/19, 4:54 AM
by codeadict on 4/7/19, 12:59 AM
by yitchelle on 4/8/19, 10:47 AM
It was the most reliable, solid mobile phone I have ever had. Battery life is really long, talk quality is very good, screen does not crack when you drop it.
by quickthrower2 on 4/7/19, 10:17 AM
by zenzonomy on 4/12/19, 1:54 PM
by peterwwillis on 4/7/19, 1:48 PM
by jasonwilk on 4/7/19, 1:49 PM
by basementcat on 4/7/19, 5:17 AM
by egypturnash on 4/7/19, 1:07 AM
by jayalpha on 4/7/19, 5:19 PM
by ilaksh on 4/7/19, 12:50 AM
by karmakaze on 4/6/19, 10:57 PM
Silverlight
Adobe AIR
by oceanghost on 4/7/19, 7:04 AM
by steQ on 4/7/19, 5:45 PM
by bnkamalesh on 4/7/19, 4:22 AM
by hawaiian on 4/7/19, 6:52 AM
(Someone else already said Google Wave.)
by colinng on 4/7/19, 12:50 AM
https://www.crowdsupply.com/aeroscope-labs/aeroscope-wireles...
by sloaken on 4/9/19, 8:59 PM
by elankart on 4/7/19, 2:36 PM
by sytelus on 4/7/19, 3:44 AM
ICQ
by goldenzun on 4/6/19, 9:12 PM
by Madmallard on 4/7/19, 8:10 PM
by ikeboy on 4/6/19, 9:38 PM
by alok-g on 4/6/19, 9:50 PM
Microsoft Encarta
by chrstphrhrt on 4/6/19, 9:44 PM
by harel on 4/7/19, 11:38 AM
Excuse me while I go reminisce....
by perilunar on 4/7/19, 6:44 AM
by danilocesar on 4/7/19, 3:49 AM
by Fire-Dragon-DoL on 4/7/19, 8:07 AM
SIGH.
by ggm on 4/7/19, 2:40 AM
by MehdiHK on 4/7/19, 4:53 AM
by knopkop_ on 4/8/19, 11:57 AM
by norin on 4/9/19, 8:20 AM
by jayess on 4/8/19, 2:15 AM
by test6554 on 4/7/19, 6:06 AM
by modarts on 4/7/19, 2:58 AM
by wdr1 on 4/7/19, 4:43 PM
by bane on 4/7/19, 2:54 PM
by jayalpha on 4/7/19, 9:24 AM
by joelaaronseely on 4/7/19, 3:11 AM
by AnimalMuppet on 4/7/19, 1:16 AM
by avivo on 4/6/19, 9:03 PM
by rodneyg_ on 4/7/19, 11:43 AM
by Yetanfou on 4/6/19, 10:49 PM
by BubRoss on 4/7/19, 12:31 AM
by sonnyblarney on 4/7/19, 2:37 AM
You would get your mail instantly, and could effectively IM on it.
I'm still not even sure how often my iPhone polls or updates, that said it's been a while.
The 'absolute connectivity' of the BB I don't think has been repeated since.
I'm getting sick of features, and honestly I think that's what I want now - a black and white BlackBerry. Just smaller.
by sonnyblarney on 4/7/19, 2:38 AM
by purplezooey on 4/6/19, 11:04 PM