by dombili on 3/28/18, 11:11 AM with 48 comments
by kenbaylor on 3/28/18, 12:26 PM
If it's a) then that's either a 'hidden' toggle which does not meet GDPR needs. If it's a 'hidden' and do not process further, it is questionable (unless a right to be forgotten is invoked).
Also if it's a) then everything is discoverable by someone with legal authority, even years after you believe you have deleted it.
by danso on 3/28/18, 11:32 AM
> ...we’re taking additional steps in the coming weeks to put people more in control of their privacy. Most of these updates have been in the works for some time, but the events of the past several days underscore their importance.
I guess it's confusing because these updates/steps are talked about in the present tense, e.g. "Some people want to delete things they’ve shared in the past, while others are just curious about the information Facebook has. So we’re introducing Access Your Information..."
Something like, "Expect to see these updates in the coming weeks" would have made things clearer.
by natch on 3/28/18, 4:13 PM
Presumably Facebook has this data, for people who are logged in with the same browser at the same time as they visit any page having a Like button. No need to click the button.
The question is whether Facebook is keeping the existence of this data hidden from people who request a copy of the data Facebook has on them.
by web007 on 3/28/18, 6:47 PM
The only links in the article body are to a post from Zuckerberg and to "Ad preferences" - nothing about how to get to the new-and-improved privacy tools.
by jonbarker on 3/28/18, 4:45 PM
by mistermann on 3/28/18, 2:29 PM
Whenever I read marketing sentences like this, I can remember sitting in meetings deciding how we were going to lie, but discussing the topic using words to make it seem even to ourselves that deceit wasn't our goal. I often wonder what my life would be like if I'd happened to end up on some sort of a blue collar path where I just did an honest day's work for an honest day's pay, my guess is that I'd be much happier, and most likely better off financially as well.
by at-fates-hands on 3/28/18, 2:33 PM
It just never ends with FB though. I can't tell what's worse though. Them continually telling their users they care about privacy and then going right back to taking and using people's data for nefarious reasons; or the users who continue to put up with it year after year, scandal after scandal and willing give up their privacy.
by mashedvikings on 3/28/18, 4:19 PM
All in all, this is a great talk, I highly recommend you watch from start.
by maxfurman on 3/28/18, 6:26 PM
by amelius on 3/28/18, 2:38 PM
by kerng on 3/28/18, 3:57 PM
by llao on 3/28/18, 3:46 PM
by slackstation on 3/28/18, 5:33 PM
by IAmEveryone on 3/28/18, 2:41 PM
by mtgx on 3/28/18, 12:38 PM
They hinted this January that they would release this soon:
> “We’re rolling out a new privacy center globally that will put the core privacy settings for Facebook in one place and make it much easier for people to manage their data,” Sandberg said at a Facebook event in Brussels on Tuesday.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-sandberg-privacy...
So I guess the takeaway here is that privacy regulation works?
I also just love how they put it in their post:
> People have also told us that information about privacy, security, and ads should be much easier to find.
Really, Facebook? People have just told you that? Are you freaking kidding me? People have been telling you that for a god damn decade. But you chose to ignore it, because you didn't care - until this major scandal was created that forced you to do this. It wasn't because "people told you" and as a company that "always listens to its users" (ha! good one), you decided to actually do that. Come on.
Facebook's tone throughout this entire scandal has been nothing but condescending. And yes, they really do think we're all idiots (as proven by how they responded on every other past screw-up and how they typically come out and lie about it):
https://mondaynote.com/mark-zuckerberg-thinks-were-idiots-63...
Remember how they outright lied about the datr cookie being a "bug" for years, until they finally admitted in a Brussels court that the cookie has always been there on purpose, but as a "security feature" (another lie) ? I do:
https://www.propublica.org/article/its-complicated-facebooks...
Facebook's leadership is full of pathological liars, and they're always looking for another "angle" to get out of the latest scandal and come out ahead. Like how Zuckerberg put out full page ads with his "message" in multiple UK papers, so he doesn't have to go and testify before the committee. Despicable people. I used to think Uber was alone in its own class of evil companies, but Facebook is starting to fit the very same class of companies.
by jacobush on 3/28/18, 6:53 PM
Make the dissidents tag themselves as such.
by chasing on 3/28/18, 4:40 PM
by feelin_googley on 3/28/18, 7:11 PM
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"If you delete "everyone" content that you posted on Facebook, we will remove it from your Facebook profile, but have no control over its use outside of Facebook."
Source: https://beta.techcrunch.com/2009/12/09/facebook-privacy/
by Mc_Big_G on 3/28/18, 2:47 PM