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Eve Online Chat Is Moving to Ejabberd

by mickael on 2/23/18, 10:07 AM with 68 comments

  • by y0ghur7_xxx on 2/23/18, 10:57 AM

    I am happy that XMPP gets some love. Centralised messengers are a real problem now. People on whatsapp are only reachable on whatsapp, same for viber, messenger, skype, ... We are in a really stupid situation. XMPP works now, is decentralised, has secure E2E encryption, is not controlled by a single entity, and has good clients for android and desktop (iOS is unfortunately missing).

    I am rooting for an XMPP comeback.

  • by f055 on 2/23/18, 10:26 AM

    I could not find a definitive answer on Twitter, but does that mean Eve players will become one of the biggest XMPP users group? I wonder if Eve enables federation and chatting with outsiders using regular XMPP clients.

  • by jayd16 on 2/23/18, 3:49 PM

    As someone who's worked with ejabberd I was about to suggest they're in for a headache but it looks like the peak player count for Eve Online is something like 65k users. They might not even have to cluster.

  • by w0de0 on 2/23/18, 10:41 PM

    An interesting aside for the unfamiliar: Eve Online's server is a monolithic app built in Python 2.7 [0]. Anecdotally, it is a hellscape of spaghetti code, sparse documentation, and features whose implementation details are quite literally lost (in that no current maintainer knows how they work or where in the codebase they exist).

    0 - https://www.eveonline.com/article/stackless-python-2.7/

  • by mxuribe on 2/23/18, 3:09 PM

    I'm wondering if this isn't a lost opportunity by not leveraging something a little more modern like the matrix protocol (which is still decentralized)??

  • by okket on 2/23/18, 11:44 AM

  • by kbwt on 2/23/18, 11:41 AM

    Signal is also problematic.