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Ask HN: Why are “Google memo” links being flagged and hidden?

by notliketherest on 8/11/17, 8:56 PM with 23 comments

Two major articles were shared on HN today regarding the Google memo: "Google CEO should resign" and "Why I was fired from Google." Both were flagged and hidden within an hour. I understand this is a deeply divisive topic, but it's clearly relevant to a large majority of readers on HN. Are we comfortable being a "close my plug my ears" echo chamber community? Or should we be brave enough to have lengthy discussions about hard issues that give others a chance to hear both sides of an argument. I like the approach we took when the original article was submitted - the thread was locked to new users.

  • by mtmail on 8/11/17, 9:14 PM

    I see the "Sundar Pichai Should Resign as Google’s C.E.O" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14990494 from 5 hours ago with comments from 2 hours ago, so flagged within an hour doesn't match. 400+ comments.

    "Why I Was Fired by Google (wsj.com)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14993683 isn't flagged. Or maybe it was and now no longer is.

    Personally I get tired of yet more opinion pieces on the same topic. After reading through 5 long threads I feel like I've seen every opinion and counter opinion.

  • by ratsmack on 8/11/17, 9:07 PM

    Is Hacker News deeply rooted in Silicon Valley, and isn't it well known that Silicon Valley do not share conservative views? I think the answer can be derived herein.

  • by Bucephalus355 on 8/11/17, 10:37 PM

    Google, to some extent, sanitizes the web of comments they do not feel should be on the web.

    I have no clue how much this is done, but the best example is Glassdoor. I've had multiple friends post their Google interview reviews, some posting multiple times and getting in (to Google that is) on their 3rd try.

    Those reviews have vanished from Glassdoor (for both people not hired and also the people hired). It is the most bizarre thing, and I tried so hard to find them after being challenged once to do so because I did not believe Google would delete them.

    At first I thought it was Glassdoor deleting them, but that's not the case at all. Look up reviews for Amazon Web Services, you'll see they blatantly give answers to questions, list terms, and summarize how the interview cycles go, and those are all up for anyone in the world to see.

  • by fav_collector on 8/11/17, 10:17 PM

    Opinion pieces aren't taken kindly in these parts of the woods.

  • by soared on 8/11/17, 10:19 PM

    Personal opinions aside, they are technically against guidelines, as is this post.

    > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

    > Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to hn@ycombinator.com.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

  • by tnone on 8/12/17, 4:50 AM

    This is a long standing pattern. Whenever a thread about a social justice topic gets too far away from the orthodoxy, it gets flagged and hidden. In some cases I've seen a thread without any noticable flags and with a high score nevertheless drop hundreds of places so it sits between week old content. The official response to the LambdaConf controversy was the most glaring example.

    At this point the HN moderators are either incompetently letting the system get gamed for obvious political purposes by one particular camp, or they are quietly looking the other way when it goes down. Either way, it's a pretty open secret by now.

  • by InTheArena on 8/11/17, 10:55 PM

    I also find it intriguing that both under my account, and under a incognito anonymous, it never hit the front page of reddit either.

  • by whipoodle on 8/11/17, 9:10 PM

    Because it's just the same shit over and over again

  • by J-dawg on 8/11/17, 9:10 PM

    Thanks for asking this. Here's another one that was posted and then disappeared without a trace:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/6t1cpx/if_w...

  • by jxramos on 8/12/17, 12:43 AM

    I was surprised when any of it got flagged given that I'm pretty sure I read earlier posts on HN that spoke about sex or race diversity in tech. I remember getting into a few comment threads on some so I'm sure there's prior stuff in this arena on HN. I guess this one was just too taboo or something.