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TvOS for Developers

by strzalek on 9/9/15, 7:26 PM with 164 comments

  • by jaimebuelta on 9/9/15, 11:48 PM

    According to the Programming Guide [1], no persistent data can be stored in the device, everything should be in iCloud, and the maximum size of the Apps is 200MB (at any given point, it seems, you can use on-demand resources)

    This is an interesting way of trying to squeeze more apps and circumvent some of the latests storage-related issues in iOS

    [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/tvos/document...

  • by prgmatic on 9/9/15, 10:59 PM

    Does it really make more sense to create _another_ OS, rather than extending OS X or iOS? It seems like they're doing that anyway seeing as games etc will work "across all devices"...
  • by ThomPete on 9/9/15, 9:15 PM

    Interesting.

    3rd party game controller for apple tv. Was hoping for that.

    http://www.apple.com/tv/games-and-more/

  • by robalfonso on 9/9/15, 11:08 PM

    My concern is the apps that are approved for this device and the speed at which it occurs.

    I've bought into the whole eco system in terms of hardware: macbook, Apple tv, iphones, ipads etc. But I don't really care for apple radio, itunes music, or itunes video. I use netflix and amazon and spotify. So my concern is that those apps will be quickly available without any slow down or blocking by Apple. I also like to stream local content which I can do easily with my ipad. I think as long as I can get the same selection of apps I get for ios I'll be happy, but I've seen apple make arbitrary choices before.

  • by capkutay on 9/9/15, 10:45 PM

    I wonder if Apple's marketing team has a template for these releases.

    "We've reimagined _____ - an innovative ______ that redefines ____."

  • by epmatsw on 9/9/15, 8:19 PM

    Disappointing it won't run on the old AppleTV, considering they're still selling it.
  • by funkedelic_bob on 9/9/15, 11:06 PM

    Does anyone know that if we mirrored a game from our iPhone 6s would it graphically look better than if we played it natively on the Apple TV? Seeing as the graphical horsepower in the phone is better than what the Apple TV offers.
  • by josteink on 9/9/15, 8:21 PM

    Let's hope this move from Apple forces Google to put some more effort into marketing Android TV.

    It's a good (superior?) platform, but could definitely use a little better app-support.

  • by therealmarv on 9/9/15, 8:44 PM

    Finally HDMI-CEC in their new Apple TV! And about the OS: It seems a lot of XML and JS for tvOS.
  • by matthewmacleod on 9/9/15, 8:41 PM

    Very interesting to see the alternative JavaScript and XML approach to creating apps. I guess it makes a lot of sense for the simple apps that will be available. Good that there's still basically the whole of iOS available for use, however.
  • by rcraft on 9/9/15, 10:04 PM

    Can specific apps still block airplay? I haven't used AppleTV in a long time, but it was crazy frustrating when certain apps restricted you from being able to airplay to a big screen.

    I'm guessing mirroring the entire screen might be a possible workaround but I thought perhaps apps could detect this as well and shutdown.

    Can anyone clarify?

  • by adultSwim on 9/10/15, 1:53 PM

    "We’ve reimagined the TV experience"

    ha - must have some pretty limited imaginations

  • by volandovengo on 9/9/15, 10:58 PM

    Anyone understand why they didn't launch this as a chromecast like USB stick vs. a standalone box?

    Surely price point will be a big issue with adoption.

  • by riemannzeta on 9/9/15, 8:45 PM

    They've got webviews. But what about browsers?

    And will apple bluetooth keyboards connect?

  • by finalight on 9/10/15, 8:48 AM

    was wondering if my current apple tv is upgradeable to the new OS?

    my apple tv is the latest generation though (before this new one obviously)

  • by snyp on 9/9/15, 8:11 PM

    Wow apple is embracing javascript
  • by pibefision on 9/9/15, 8:35 PM

    Not again, not another walled gardened experience please
  • by frame_perfect on 9/9/15, 11:58 PM

    It's so shitty how the Raspberry Pi has been able to do the same technical things as this for almost 3 years now with complete freedom and ease of use, but the only thing stopping it was DRM. Now this non-innovative POS is probably going to overtake it simply because Apple can cut a deal :/
  • by datashovel on 9/9/15, 9:10 PM

    Just the other day I realized I didn't even have batteries in my TV remote anymore. Haven't had the desire to turn my TV on in who knows how long. As a consumer I'm not optimistic this will change anything.
  • by seiji on 9/9/15, 8:20 PM

    This is where HN breaks down. The branding is explicitly tvOS, not TvOS (HN used to have pedantic mods manually change all titles to make first-letter-caps even when not relevant, not sure if it's automatic now or not).

    There's actually a special unicode character you can use to begin a sentence if your subject is lowercase: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/203e/index.htm